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Sleuthing Creeley's Eye

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Sleuthing Creeley’s Eye

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from the Boston Phoenix,

April 8, 2005, is that a SECOND   <——— eye or what??!

The first person to think that there was something weird abt Robert Creeley’s R eye in the Pressed Wafer postcard and poster announcing a memorial reading at MIT for Creeley was Creeley’s wife, Penelope. Have I gone mad, she asked me. It looks like Robert has two eyes. Did you do anything to the picture? Did you? Did you? I assured her I had printed the picture myself, from the original negative, abt twenty years ago at least. It was a so-called vintage print.

to:bevcobett…
from:elsad@comcast.net
Subject: Re:postcards/posters

…….pen looked at the postcards and she swears bob has a glass eye in his
missing eye, facing right!!!!!!do you remember if way back bob had a glass
eye???? pen thinks he lost his glass eye in india and never replaced
it. do you have a memory? I don’t have a memory. anyhow. that might just
be the ONLY portrait of bob w/ his second glass eye, one other than the one
lost in india. I wrote to ask bobbie!!!! ……pen says the card looks
grand and she seems very pleased, if perplexed by the EYE. I have never
noticed the second eye, because i KNOW there is just one eye and because of
one eye spot in the image. I always thought that one eye spot and one eye
bob made the picture perfect. cheers,e.

to: Bevcobett…., PenHC
from:elsad@comcast.net
Subject: Fwd: here it is….

well, the mystery continues. like the shroud of turin or seeing the crying
madonna. I NEVER saw an eye in that image before pen mentioned the “eye”
to me and now that’s all i see. and it must be an illusion. it is my
negative. never printed by anyone else. never touched. long long long
before photoshop in any case. cheers.e.

From: bevcobett…..
Subject: bob’s “eye” ()
to:elsad@comcast.net

You’re right. I keep looking at the photo and seeing the eye that can’t be
there. Wouldn’t the socket be dark? yes, but that looks like an eye to me.
AAGGHHHH!……See you Saturday. Bill

to:elsad@comcast.net
from: bobbie hawkins
date:5/1/05 11:59:39 AM
subject:here it is

Dear Ellie,

The question is, did this print come from your files? At which point

it is a mystery.

But there were instances in the past where publishers took photos and

“improved” them by making a second
eye. This isn’t the one I had in mind, but it does look like a second eye
is there.

And no, bob never wore a glass eye while I was with him.
Let me know what the outcome is.
love,
Bobbie

from: bevcobett….
subject:Eye for an eye (, )

to: elsad@comcast.net

Ellie:the plot thickens. Last night in Providence, where I had gone to
hear Clark Coolidge read, I gave some of your cards to a poet named Mike
Magee who had known Bob slightly. He took one look at the photo and
exclaimed, “Is that an eye? It is, isn’t it?” He wasn’t really asking a
question, just assuring himself that the eye he saw was there. I admit
that I’m now convinced that Bob wore a glass eye that summer. When did he
remove it for good???…….See you Saturday, Bill

to:bevcobett,pen creeley, bobbie hawkins, from:elsad@comcast.net subject: you will not believe this……….. but when I had the original photographed SCANNED, for Bill’s commentary on Bob for the Boston Phoenix, the scanner person at the Phoenix apparently put the other eye in the foto of bob!!!!!!neither bill nor I noticed when we proofed it. I totally forgot the scanner step when I assured Pen no one had touched my negative. No one had touched my negative but the print had been SCANNED…..a step I still haven’t obviously incorporated into my psyche as being a possibility. I was just this hour housekeeping in my studio and found the ORIGINAL print that the scan was made from and bob has only one eye. I am dumbfounded. bill: how did we not catch this?????? I am beside myself. I am beside myself. So much for modern technology and how it lets people run away w/ things…..and on my side, so much for attention to detail. this is like a stamp w/ the flag upside down. xox.e.

To: bevcobett
from:elsad@comcast.net
Subject: Re: you will not believe this………..
Cc: PenH, bobbiehawkins

i think i figured it out. when i sent the original foto to the phoenix they
scanned it…..if you blow up the image you and i have you can really see
where they scanned in the second eye…..when you know what yr looking
for. I only realized when i found the original print that I sent the
phoenix. they had made me a cd w/ the image. it is hard to tell in the
phoenix issue…..really hard to tell. anyhow. I am so
dumbfounded………it’s like fdr standing by himself…….crutches
airbrushed out….etc. etc.
I don’t know. it is definitely scanned into the cd i got from the phoenix.
but it is easy to see how we didn’t notice in the phoenix. but neither of
us noticed in the card/poster proof. good thing we aren’t radiologists
reading mris. e.

To:elsad@comcast.net
from: bevcobett……
02:53 PM 5/4/2005

This is unbelievable! Who scanned it? Why would someone do that? I’m
dumbfounded. Bill

—–Original Message—–
From: Elsa Dorfman [mailto:elsad@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:49 PM
To: Harvey Silverglate
Subject: Re: Creeley & dog

harv . you won’t believe this. but the phoenix photoshopped in the
second
eye in the creeley picture.
can
you imagine………the phoenix added an eye when they ran bill’s creeley
obit. xox.e.

From: “Harvey Silverglate”
To: “Elsa Dorfman”

You gotta tell the Phoenix they can’t do that on your photos. I’m
aghast. The eye socket is an important part of the picture and the
personna.

From: “Harvey Silverglate”
To: “Elsa Dorfman”

You gotta tell the Phoenix they can’t do that on your photos. I’m
aghast. The eye socket is an important part of the picture and the
personna.

From: Bevcobett
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:07:31 EDT
Subject: Re: the phoenix
To: elsad@comcast.net

Don’t feel like an idiot. We missed it because we weren’t looking for
it
and were looking at the original. That’s the photo that was in our mind’s
eye. Why not call Peter K and say did you know that someone at the Phoenix
photoshopped my photo of Creeley and put in an eye that wasn’t there? Of
course he’ll be as dumbfounded as we are. I can, if you want, let Jon
Gareliuck know and he can look into it. Amazing! Bill

Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:01:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mary Panzer
Subject: Re: read this pls
To: Elsa Dorfman elsad@comcast.net

Elsa,

what a story — and what a warning. obviously the photo-shopper had no
idea that he/she had done something terribly WRONG. but it’s a perfect
example — of the way a correction can slip in through a technological
step that is almost invisble — imagine how hard it would be to catch if
it had traveled any further — does this mean that from now on every
single image that anyone sends anywhere has to carry a warning: DO NOT
CORRECT, IMPROVE CHANGE OR ALTER THIS IMAGE IN ANY WAY.

?

I am still working. but it has to end very soon.

love,

Mary

Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:04:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Concerning Robert Creeley
From: Ben Carmichael
To: Elsa Dorfman elsad@comcast.net

Elsa,

You know, that’s really funny, because it was the first thing I noticed
when you sent it to me. And, to be honest, I didn’t know whether I was
going to print it or not, because I felt like everyone else who knew
him – that his missing eye was a part of who he was. And to memorialize
him with both eyes raised some questions. What a great series of posts
– I’m glad to know how it came about!

I’ll be sure to send you a copy of the magazine when it comes out. Many
thanks, once again.

All the best,
ben

P.s. Your interview on NPR was lovely. Bob was great at email. That bit
made me laugh.

X-Originating-IP: [12.11.184.17]
From: “Kadzis, Peter”
To: ‘Elsa Dorfman’ elsad@comcast.net
Subject: RE: creeley has one eye
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:53:02 -0400

One eye indeed!

Can we write about this for next week’s paper?

It is soooo weird that someone added Bob’s missing eye. Bob was so much abt his missing eye. Seeing w/ one eye changed his perspective and I always thought made him hypersensitive to art, to understanding/ catching on to work that I only got much later. And Bob always had a bandana, a red one, or a paper towel in his hand to mop his missing eye, mop the socket. The eye was gone but its absence was always there, weeping in its weird way. The way someone is tall or very short, or IS, in some physical way, Bob was the way he was, w/ his one eye. For those of us who have Bob imprinted in our brain, we don’t even notice the two eyes. Our brain takes one out. But for all those people who forevermore won’t see Bob Creeley, if they see him w/ two eyes in this portrait, they don’t get the impact, the whole of one eye creeley. and the portrait loses its humor. it is no longer one eye dog and one eye man. Roland Barthes wd go insane. The missing eye was the PUNCTUM.

For me as the photographer i am totally flummoxed. The people at the Phoenix are family. And someone at the Phoenix was being helpful. trying to make my image better and trying to make Creeley look…….what…….like he had the two eyes they thought he had. Make him look normal. Someone who didn’t know Creeley because to know Creeley is to know he writes in short lines and he has one eye and is a great poet…….So an age gap perhaps between me and Creeley and the photo person @ Phoenix. . But not to call me just to make sure they were clarifying an eye that was there but was hard to see. I was a phone call away. Everyone is a phone call away these days, even if almost anywhere. What does this say abt photoshop. Everyone who uses photoshop is so used to getting rid of the hair on the arms, the wisp on the forehead, of taking off ten pounds, of adding jewelry. used to making a person conform to some ideal the photoshopper has, w/o knowing it, in his/her head. the improvements the photoshopper can bestow go on and on. Reality hardly matters . I guess when 1spends hours working w/ photoshopand has inhaled the pssibilities of photoshop, endless that they are, one can’t resist adding an eye to a poor guy w/ one eye.Can the photoshopper contemplate that the eye is gone and should be gone and doesn’t need to be added to the poet’s face. The missing eye isn’t about missing light. The photographer doesn’t need help.

In my portrait of bob creeley, reality really matters. The missing eye is essential Creeley.

What wd Bob say? I can imagine two scenarios. In one, he blows it off. Things happen. And in the other scenario, he’s bugged. And in either scenario he worries if I am upset. And will Bill Corbett have to waste all the postcards and posters.

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